Interview: Innoson In A Better Position Than Importers, Says Chairman, Innocent Chukwuma

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Founder and Chairman of Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing Company, makers of Innoson motors brand, Chief Innocent Chukwuma, has commended customers and all stakeholders for supporting the Company in the past 13 years.

 In an interview with Motoring Editors, including Moses Ebosele of City Business News after a tour of Nnewi Factory, Anambra State, Chief Chukwuma said the Company is in a better position than importers:

Tell us some of the challenges since you started the auto manufacturing journey of 13 years ago?

I would say the journey has been full of ups and downs, but we still managed  to survive. Starting from when I was building this factory, a lot of challenges came up. Some people came to the factory and kidnapped the workers, including (Chinese) foreigners and Nigerians.

They took them away and started calling me. The second one was when GTBank wanted to shut down this place. Every Nigerian knows about it. I went to court and finally defeated them. GTBank is still owning me up to today. When we started electricity was very poor even though it has improved now

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What about the challenges of sourcing  foreign exchange?

I am a manufacturer. We are in a better position than importers. This is because what we import is not everything we are using in the manufacturing our vehicles..So we import a few items and use local materials to complete our needs. But, importers of ready made goods overseas import 100 per cent, which means that their forex requirements are higher. So I can say that foreign exchange depends on a number of things; sometimes, you do some export and get foreign exchange. Government allocation of foreign exchange is no longer working.

How do you get your funding?

Normally, banks are supposed to be sponsoring businesses, but they are not sponsoring the industries. Nigerian banks are trading in foreign exchange. They are no longer sponsoring productive ventures, like nanufacturing. They are trading from CBN to foreign exchange and they are not sponsoring industries. Any investor that relies entirely on banks will fail because the banks will even crush him.

Banks are not ready to support manufacturing. They can support people that import oil, but to support manufacturing, banks are not ready to wait, because manufacturing cannot bring that type of quick money they want on daily basis. We are trying to manage manufacturing very well, so that we don’t need to borrow so much to manufacture because banks are not ready to sponsor it.

What is the percentage of local content in your auto manufacturing, and how do you source them?

We source the items we use locally and we import some. We get all of them together. For example, we produce plastic components of the vehicles like bumper, dashboard, front grille, etc, at our Innoson Technical and Industrial Company Ltd, in Enene, Enugu. We are in a position to buy any item that anybody can produce locally. We don’t need to import any of the items we can get in Nigeria. But we are still importing engine and gearboxes. The country they come from depends on the model we are doing. I don’t produce tyres but when we need tyres we reach out to tyres dealers and tell them what we want.

You made an attempt at tyre manufacturing many years ago. How did it go?

National Environmental Standards and Regulations Enforcement Agency (NESREA) said we cannot produce tyres because they did not authorise it. So we shut down, despite having invested a massive part of our resources in the project and imported some heavy equipment.

Are you not disturbed that in these 13 years of existence, Nigeria had witnessed three Presidents and non of them has used IVM which is the practice in other vehicle producing nations?

I cannot say that our Presidents are not using my vehicles, because I have not checked their fleets. It is people that are close to them that will check and find out. My vehicles are in the market and anybody can buy. I cannot say they are not using it. For instance, I never knew that the Lagos State Government was using my vehicles until someone told me.

How did you get the seed money for this huge investment?. Again, where do you get the steel. Also tell us the level of local components you are using?

The local content used in my vehicles are not less than 65 per cent. I will ask you one question to assist me: When I see you write so fast, how do you do it? I ask because I write very slowly. You are used to that. It will help me to answer your question. When you package your business very well, it will grow in a short time. Somebody who has grown a business for 40 years, that business is supposed to grow.

Again, I didn’t start big like; Rather, I started small, but grew it from a small business to what we have today. It is because of long practice. Somebody could groom you, but at a time, you grow by yourself. On steel, I don’t produce steel, but I buy from steel dealers in Nigeria. When I need steel, I tell them the size I need and sometimes, they source it locally or from outside. We have a caliper to check the millimeter to confirm the gauge. If they are not up to the quality standard, we reject them.

How did you start. Tell us the journey into the auto business?

What I am doing today in auto manufacturing, I had earlier done in the motorcycle industry and succeeded. The time I joined motorcycles, there were five companies that were dealing in motorcycles: First was Leventis dealing in Honda; Yamako dealing in Yamaha; Bolous Enterprises dealing in Suzuki; and CFAO dealing in Kawasaki and Moblet. I brought Jianshe motorcycles which were under me. I studied what the big companies were doing. They were bringing 36 units fully built motorcycles in one 40-feet container. So with the 36 units in one 40ft container, they did all the expenses on the container and their cost was very high.

As a motorcycle expert, before I joined, I calculated the cost and expenditure. Then,  motorcycle was N 150, 000 per unit, I calculated the component parts that make up one motorcycle and found out that the total cost was not up to N150, 000. So I decided to go and import the motorcycles in components (instead of ready made). I listed the parts and brought them in, and used local technicians to assemble them in Nnewi. My container of motorcycle components, the same 40 feet size, could carry as much 150 units in one, instead of 36 units those companies were bringing in as fully built.

As a result, my own motorcycle price was lower than theirs and I sold the first consignment at N800,000 per motorcycle, while they were selling N150, 000. Clients tested it and found out that it was equally good. I did it for about five years like that without competition before others discovered what I was doing and joined.

As they were joining, I found another way of making it cheaper. I opened a plastic factory in Enugu to produce the plastic components so that the price would be okay. When I started this component parts, some of them that joined started buying the component parts to sell their own. By then we had dropped the price of one motorcycle to N60, 000. From N150,000 to N60,000. Those who bought my plastic components were also selling N60,000, but those who were not buying from me were selling higher. So, they bought my plastic and business was moving. That was when I said let me go into the automobile. Before I did it, people were only using second-hand motorcycles. What I did stopped the use of second hand (tokunbo) motorcycles, because the new motorcycles became cheaper than second-hand motorcycles. That was what chased tokunbo motorcycles away from the Nigerian market.

If you watch in Nigeria today, people are buying second hand vehicles. That was why I decided to go and develop the auto industry. If not for the foreign exchange issue, that is the weak naira against the US dollar at forex, people would have been buying new vehicles at cheaper prices in Nigeria now. For instance, I planned selling one of my sports utility vehicles (SUVs) for M1 million for all to buy, but because of foreign exchange issue, the vehicle is going for N10 million now. People that import new vehicles cannot sell at our own price and that means we are still at an advantage.

What are your plans for motorsports?

Nigeria is big with a large market. My focus is to conquer the motor needs of  people in Nigeria and beyond. The people that are doing motorsports in other places have conquered this for a long time before they joined motorsports. I will join that when I conquer the peoples needs in Nigeria.

Do you have the facility to test vehicles and what is your daily or annual production capacity?

We have the facility to test vehicles. We have that section. I do 50,000 units and with what we are building in our factory is to produce 60,000 units annually if there is demand. We don’t produce and keep because of where to keep them. But we have an installed capacity that can handle the production, if there is need. When there is demand we open up the production line and employ more people. When you are producing like 10 vehicles a day; when there is demand, you can make those 10 vehicles to 100 vehicles per day. What you do is to add workers times 10. Then what will take you one hour to do, you will do it in 10 minutes. We have the capacity to produce 60,000 if there is need.

What capacity do you have in terms of conversion of vehicles to CNG and what advantage does CNG have over other types of fuel powered vehicles?

We can do conversion. Government said they bought in conversion kits, but I don’t know how or what they imported. I convert for people

What are your views about the automotive industry in Nigeria?

My view is that if everybody supports the automotive policy, it will go well. The Automotive industry is the way forward and I want Nigeria to be leading the industry in Africa.

You were approached by Abia state government to supply some vehicles. Suddenly, we heard that you could not get those vehicles ready within the period the government wanted it and that was why it went to another company. Can you shed more light on that?

What happened was that they needed 100 vehicles and I supplied 80. I told them that the remaining 20 would be ready in 14 days, but they said they needed it immediately. Then I told them they could buy from shops. I am a manufacturer and not a trader. They said they needed the 20 units immediately; that it was for security. I went to them to tell them like that so that people will understand. The governor is one of my best friends, even before he became a governor. He doesn’t joke with my products and that is why if you go to Abia state today, you will see my vehicles everywhere. Even the governor himself is using my vehicles.

You also have issues with Imo State Government. Has it been resolved?

No it hasn’t been resolved. They just seized the money for almost three years now. The amount is N2. 6 billion for 150 vehicles I supplied to them. Today, the money has gone up to N7 billion. I am in the court with them.

The vision of Innoson is to conquer the Nigerian and African market. How much have you been able to export your products to other African countries?

I have got up to 15 contract from different countries outside Nigeria. The reason we don’t export from Nigeria to other African countries is because Africa does not have shipping lines that go round Africa. Sometimes, when you export to Ghana, the vessel will first carry the containers to Europe before going to Ghana. But if we have shipping lines that go round Africa, Africa has a lot of things that they can export to each other. But if you watch, getting something from other African countries is difficult. Unless you go to Cotonou to carry it, it is easy to come in. If African countries want inter-Africa trade to grow, they should have shipping lines going round Africa. Without that, trading among African countries will be difficult.

Meanwhile, I tried to service the 15 contracts but I found out what their problems were, which is unavailability of shipping lines to carry the consignments for them. When they run into that difficulty today, they would not come back to you tomorrow. For instance, some of the countries  I have exported vehicles to, include: Ghana, Sierra Leone, Senegal and others.

What encouraged you to look home-wards in terms of locating your assembly plant in Nnewi?

It is not that I looked inwards. The fact is that I don’t like crowds. I think I like where traffic will not be holding me on the road so much. That was why I decided to be here in Nnewi and Enugu. Other places like Lagos and Onitsha are filled up. So I came down to Nnewi so that it would be easy for me to coordinate. Right  now, I have two factories in Nnewi and accessing them is very easy for me. But if it is in Surulere or Apapa in Lagos, will you go? After all, market is everywhere.

What is the secret of business success of Nnewi people?

Nnewi people, starting from origin have the keys of business. Remember the late Louis Odumegwu Ojukwu, who was the leader in Nigeria even before the war. Most of our people are business people and they are used to business. Each town has something unique to them and in the case of Nnewi business is their uniqueness.

Where will Innoson be in the next 10 years, now that you have celebrated 13 years of existence?

I believe that in the next 13 years, Innoson will be everywhere in Africa.

What are your succession plans?

It doesn’t mean that I am the one doing all the job. People are doing it. And those that are doing the job are younger than me. Didn’t you see that we rewarded some of the people that started with us at our 13th anniversary event today, because they are very important in our business. They stayed with us for a long time and we gave out 15 motorcycles to them. I sent our factory manager to China and trained him for eight years. Besides, they are all my friends and we eat at the same table. They love me and they cannot harm me.

Can you tell us something about the new factory in Umuezena, Nnewi?

That place is 400, 000 square meters land. One of the buildings I am putting up there is 40, 000 square meters. It will be three, that is 120,000 square meters.

Which of the IVM models is the fastest selling in your line-up?

Vehicles are like a fashion item. This year, vehicle B can be the fastest selling, next year vehicle D will come up. We produce all to sell. You cannot say this is the fastest. Three things determine the fastness: One is the price, number two is usage,an number three is the utility. Like buses and pickups which are tailored for for commercial use. All of them are doing very well. However, what we do is that anyone that is not doing well, we stop it and replace it with another model. That is why I am manufacturing.

What are the advantages of. Compressed Natural Gas, CNG-powered vehicles?

President Tinubu has done Nigeria good by removing subsidy and introducing CNG. Any day, people understand what CNG is, they will be happy with the government. I started the production of CNG for the past two years, long before it was now for me ally introduced following the removal of oil subsidy on May 29 by the President. As at the time the government announced the removal of subsidy on petrol and the talk about CNG as an alternative commenced, I already have up to 100 units of vehicles running on CNG on ground; parked here in the factory. It happened that way because I knew that one day, subsidy would be removed. I have vehicles that are powered by CNG in all the IVM models, and I also convert for people who are driving Innoson. I want to give them the advantage first because they are my customers.

How have your people in Nnewi felt the impact of locating your factory in the town?

Locating this factory is one of the good things that has happened to the South-Eastern part of Nigeria. It is bringing a lot of things here. For example, when the Federal Government decided to build an industrial hub for the auto industry, they located one in Lagos, another in Kaduna and one in Nnewi here because of this factory. Is it not because of the factory and is it not enough for you? In addition, it provided employment. When I finish constructing the factory I am now building in Nnewi, I will employ another 2,000 workers and I prefer to employ people who are at home here. It is one of the good things that have happened to the people.

What about electric vehicles?

I will shock you on what I am going to do with electric vehicles. I am doing vehicles; if you want me to power with electric, I will power it with electric. If you want CNG, gas, fuel, I will do it for you immediately.

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